Too Much Information

When is sharing your life online with others crossing over into  TMI  (Too Much Information) territory?

Like it or not, we make judgments about people based on the integral of all we know about them.  The baseball player who bets on sports in Vegas is assumed to have a vested interest in tailoring his own play to affect his financial bets, whether or not anyone can prove that that’s true.  We assume Tiger Woods credibility as a spokesperson for various corporations is called into question because of what he has done, or hasn’t done in his personal life.  Bill Clinton apparently had a long reputation of “being a dog that was hard to keep on the porch”, but somehow, he still manages to be a brilliant guy and a pretty great president, overall.

We learn about friends and family these days, not just by our own experience, but by the deluge of information available about them on the web.  Before I meet with a client or speak to a group, I do a Google search to find out a bit about them in advance.  It helps me feel prepared, have a sense of who I think they are, and a chance on meeting in person, to match that preconceived notion, based on web data, with what I see in person.

This is why I try to teach my kids and constantly remind myself that everything I say or do online is the most public of records.  The DM’s I get on twitter, the text messages sent to my phone, my email- all of that- has an illusion of privacy, but it is still discoverable by others, in some way, at some point in the future, legally or illegally.

If you note the recent media discussions about controlled leaks from Apple about the upcoming tablet computer, and rumors of similar controlled leaks in government, you’ll note that these conversations all occur over the phone or preferably in person, aren’t taped or recorded, and provide both parties with plausible deniability because there’s no documented paper trail.

The clear lesson here is that if you want to have a private conversation, clearly don’t leave a voicemail message and don’t put any of it in writing- don’t leave a web or digital or actual paper trail.

This brings me to the point of this post, which is a new service called Blippy, where you can share your recent purchases (and the amount spent) on various sites, including Amazon.com, Netflix, Threadless and iTunes.  You can link a credit card as well, so every time you make a purchase at the convenience store, that, too, is posted to this social network.

Here’s a list of the accounts you can link to Blippy:

I_tunes iTunes Amazon Amazon Zappos Zappos Audible Audible
Groupon GroupOn Threadless Threadless Stub_hub StubHub Go_daddy GoDaddy
Netflix Netflix Blockbuster Blockbuster Seamless_web SeamlessWeb Wine LibraryWine_library
Credit_card Credit card (Visa, MasterCard, AMEX), debit card, or bank account

I am all for living life out loud.  I know people can find almost an infinite set of information out about me- but this crosses the line into kind of stalker-ish territory.  It’s one thing to get pointed to cool apps , books, and music that your friends are buying.  In fact, when looking around Blippy, I found a bunch of great things my friends had purchased, especially books and iphone apps,  that makes it almost certain I will purchase the same, which I am sure is Blippy’s whole marketing attempt.  After all, if you can find out, passively, what your friends are up to and what they’re getting, what better way to keep up with the digital Joneses?  Or even better, find out what your friends are into when it comes to birthday times, or for marketers doing blogger outreach?

However, it’s another thing to be updated every time they buy milk or cigarettes at the convenience store.

And let’s talk about the judgments people make about our private spending habits.

Say I get an account and share with my friends and co-workers.  How long before my boss finds out I rent weird films from Blockbuster?  Or am ordering books on how to develop a side career on Amazon?  How long before a health insurance company figures out you never did quit smoking like you swore you did on those forms?  What if they never see me paying for a gym membership?  What happens if you are buying books on how to make a career transition or how to pad your resume?  What if you ordered books about medical issues?  Or your bill from Wine Library TV seems to indicate you have a serious drinking problem?

Yeah, I don’t much care if all my friends learn I have an old school Tretorn addiction and Zappos is my favorite supplier, but does my husband need to know every single penny I spent there?  What if he gets notifications of things meant as gifts for him?

While it’s great all this information can be aggregated in one spot and I can see it being useful even for companies to track what employees are spending on Company credit cards, this is the first social network in a long time asking us to share information that has long been isolated in your credit card bills, email accounts and the sanctity of your ipod and cell phones.  (I’ve long thought you can learn a ton about someone by seeing the contents of their ipod alone- often leading me to be a bit cautious about giving mine to friends and seeing the plethora of various kid tunes (What? an addiction to Trout Fishing in America?  Really?), my secret like of old school hip-hop, and other music that leads to raised eyebrows in some social circles).

After only a few minutes of poking around, I’m getting more information than I planned about my friends.    Not only did I find out about a great analytics app, but the same person also downloaded the  Playboy app as well.  Clearly  information I probably didn’t need, even if it’s clearly nothing to be prudish about.  Likewise, a recent troll through the people my friends are following led me to Leo Leporte’s account, and the multiple $1,500 purchases he made in a short period of time at the Renaissance in Vegas.   People commented on the site about whether he was paying for his team’s hotel rooms or having a bad night at gaming tables,  but is this information everyone should have? Should Leo have to justify what he was buying to everyone on the internet, or his sponsors?   Likewise, Ev Williams bought a Pregnancy Tracker app for his iPhone.  Does that mean I should offer my husband’s services as an OB-GYN?  Should I start knitting a baby present?  I don’t think so, and that’s why I think Blippy, while a marketer’s dream, is a privacy nightmare.

Feel free to make your own conclusions, but for now, for better or for worse, I think I’ll be keeping my purchases to myself.

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  • http://www.cc-chapman.com cc_chapman

    I'm with you on that fact that some people are not FULLY thinking through how they are using this application.

    I like you love using it to find out what friend are purchasing in music and books. The rest of the credit card stuff does not appeal to me and I'm actually shocked what some people are sharing.

    For me, I'm using it more from a research stand point because I think the concept of “social shopping” is a powerful one. But, with that being said I'm keeping my data and who I allow to follow me to a very close, tight knit, trusted few. Some data should not be shared with the world.

  • http://m2.atstuff.com Mike Masin

    I agree Whitney. The lesson “consider all of the implications of what you share before you share it” might be a hard one if we don't learn it early. Your question, “What if they never see me paying for a gym membership?” made me think. That's a much broader assumption than “she bought a tobacco product therefore she's a user.” (She might have bought them for somebody else.) It sounds like we need an app that randomly inserts, deletes, and changes information we make public about ourselves just to keep everybody guessing.

    I won't be sharing my purchases any time soon.

  • http://uptownuncorked.com geechee_girl

    I agree that Blippy is not for me, and that I have no desire to track people there – too intrusive into the minutia of things I don't need to know anything about. I do like ADaptiveBlue's Glue, however – I can get the same kind of information in a more general and controlled way, with the amount of exposure determined by the friends using the app. And it surprises me that everyone was in such an uproar over Facebook's Beacon for these same violations, but somehow Blippy has escaped public outcry over intrusiveness so far.

  • http://devilinthedetails.org Greg Hollingsworth

    Couldn't agree more. The thought of broadcasting every purchase I make seems pointless. What value does my purchasing hamburgers at the grocery store yesterday hold for anyone?

    I agree with CC that I think it could be a powerful discovery engine for your friends with common interests, but I don't see the point in publishing what you paid for it, or for even having the option to throw any random debit/credit card in there.

  • http://twitter.com/noahcarter Noah Carter

    i don't know. Sounds like the same skepticism we heard when Twitter first emerged. (why would anyone care what i'm doing right now?)

    I think the utility of blipper remains to be seen – and might suprise us all.

  • Eli Radke

    I am not trying to sound like I am super young or anything because I am not. But the world is changing to some aspects, younger people share stuff that I can not imagine sharing. Fortunately or unfortunately there are skeletons in everyones closets that will come out one way or another. I was super skeptical about blippy but it is fun and informative. I have bought a few things from extra insights. I only have a few accounts setup, I activated the godaddy account and immediately stopped it, I payed for private registration for a reason. You can also remove specific transactions. To my knowledge they only show individual purchases for branded services (itunes, etc) not what you bought at a specific store. I signed up just to see what it was about and see the business model. It is a great idea, will I still be using it in 3 years, not sure. CC I am suprised to hear you keeping your purchases so guarded. I would assume you would like the openiness of it all but maybe I have misunderstood your work.

  • whitneyhoffman

    I do like the social shopping aspects of Blippy- in fact, I found finding out about apps friends are using and books they are reading incredibly useful from the start. But I think the amounts that they spent is largely irrelevant information for that purpose. I also think that revealing everything we buy is peeling another layer off the privacy onion for sure. People had a cow when Facebook was placing ads that read “Your friend ________ just bought __________ click here!” and I think as our work and personal lives become even more entwined, what constitutes privacy, if anything, is likewise going to come into question. But right now, as it stands, Blippy allows you to prod into people's financial lives if they choose to allow you to do so, in a way you haven't been able to before hand. Again, I just don't think I have any business knowing what Leo LaPorte spent at the Renaissance or for what, let alone comment on it. It makes for great rumor mongering and a great research site for the National Enquirer and marketers of all stripes- heck, the President unwittingly ended up on a poster in Times Square by the people who made the jacket- when do we all become unwilling or unacknowledged shills for any product we happen to purchase? When does that degree of relationship we have with our friends become a de facto stamp of approval and potential banner ad for a company, whether we've waited to find out whether they liked the thing or not?

    I just think there's a lot of issues here. I find it incredibly useful and voyeuristic and fascinating, but I am just not sure I want to share that much with others myself. If they want to, it's certainly their business. And if you want an invite, I am happy to pass one your way as well. (I think they actually came out of Beta today, so you may have plenty of access already…)

  • http://www.cc-chapman.com cc_chapman

    I'm a HUGE fan of openness and the power of online tools like this, but at the same time I like that all of these tools let me choose who to share information with.

    Each of us should be very aware of what information we are sharing and as I've always said there is not right or wrong choice. It is up to each of us.

    Take for instance, on FourSquare I share with everyone, but on Gowalla I don't. It is a choice I've made.

    Same with Blippy. Right now I don't want to share with the world. Maybe that will change in the future, maybe it won't, but right now that is the decision I've made.

  • whitneyhoffman

    I think all of us who have been playing on the 'net for some time understand that whatever we put on line is up for public consumption just as if we posted it on a billboard in Times Square. That said, I think there are still zones of privacy I don't have to share with everyone- what brand of cereal I eat but that's not what my kids eat, my bank balance, my husband's favorite color…. after all, I don't live stream my life, even though there are plenty of pictures of me and my family easily available on line, but I don't think every moment of every day needs to be lived out on the screen or internet.

    And that's not even to mention how all of these little pieces of information out there, as Sarah Palin found out, also make all of your accounts a heck of a lot easier to hack as well. :) If someone lifts your credit card, when the card company calls up and asks what were your last five purchases- anyone with your Blippy account will know the answer! Try explaining that it wasn't you to Bank of America when they are looking for the money, when all documentary evidence reports that it was you- they have a screen shot of your account on Blippy!
    Again- I love the social shopping aspect and getting more recommendations from friends, spotting trends, etc. but i also think there's lots of ways to get into trouble here by opening up so many purchases for public scrutiny.

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  • http://ijustine.com/ Justine

    I love the site.. but I only linked my itunes and netflix. There is no way I'd ever link my credit card unless it was a separate one that I specifically had dedicated to blippy. You aren't forced to share. I think a lot of people miss that point and are careless with what information they give out.

  • whitneyhoffman

    Thanks for stopping by, Justine! We're big fans of yours, so this is a real treat!
    I agree, there are some things that may be perfectly okay to share. But I think shopping, for whatever reason, brings out critics snd people love to make judgments and comments. Then again, I can agree with the point that that's what social media is all about as well. But sometimes the judgments seem so…personal. Whether it was folks wondering why you were renting all the past episodes of Weeds, and then you explained it was your sister- why should you have to explain that to anyone? Whether its the subset of folks who, when you mention “I love that blouse” and they immediately volunteer where they got it and the price paid, especially if it was a good deal, or lie about the price because their spouse was in the room. Heck, I have gotten such great deals shopping that sometimes I wish I could place the item on the roof rack like a hunting trophy.
    But there seems to be something about mixing money and social that can be awkward at times.
    I think Blippy is totally fascinating, but I am just not sure I'm personally ready to reveal that much about me to anybody but close friends, and I'm just surprised how many people have opened up so much about themselves through Blippy already. It will be interesting to watch and see what happens.

  • http://twitter.com/eradke Eli Radke

    @CC well things like blippy are similar to telling a story about ourselves. To me it has the potential to be a really good word of mouth advertising. @whitney you have an amazing point about the last purchases thing. I never thought about that and you are 100% right. I do not share my credit card other than my paypal account but do not use it to make purchases.

  • whitneyhoffman

    Like everything else we share so openly these days, I think there's amazing power in being open, but also risks and judgments. And in the end, moderation seems to be the key. Blippy has great potential within a firewall to keep people on company charges honest, that's for sure. But do I want everyone to know what I bought at the drug store? Whether it's shampoo or personal items or perscriptions- probably overshare.

  • http://twitter.com/eradke Eli Radke

    My comment just got eaten, but the short of it is that our comments last forever and although purchases online seem weird now they will become as thoughtless as some comment we made 3 years ago. But everyone will have them.